오닉스 믹서 vs  오닉스400f  vs  오닉스 800r

위 3 가지 기기는 모두 맥키 사의 오닉스 마이크 프리를
탑재 하고 있는걸로 압니다.


그럼  위 제품중 어떤걸로 사용해도 녹음 되는 소리는  똑 같은 걸까요?

만약 제가 사용한다면 

주로 마이크  ---오닉스 마이크 프리(오닉스 믹서 ,  400f  , 800r) ---
녹음기(dat  혹은 dvra1000  에  s/pdif  를 통해 녹음.  물론 믹서에서는
아날로그 아웃으로 녹음)

의 순서 입니다.

그리고 800r 은 1번 2번 마이크 프리가 뭐 빈티지 마이크 와 잘맞게
임피던스 조정하는거도 있다는데  혹 사용해 보신분 있으시면
조언 부탁 드립니다.

아래는 인터넷 서핑중 퍼 나른 것임니다.
해석이 완벽하게 안되어 일단 올려 봅니다.
결론은 같다는 이야기 인지요?


TM wrote:
> I wonder how much difference there are between those two Mackie
> products which share the newest mic pre.  I assume that the FireWire
> card (for mixer) has all the A/D converters, but I wonder if anyone
> knows how it differs from the one in 800R.


There are many differences. While they share the same basic front end
(with the exception of the two channels on the 800R that have variable
input impedance), almost everything else is different.

They use different converters. There are real A/D converters in the
800R while the Onyx Firewire is a Bridgeco audio chip. The 800R works
up to 192 kHz (good for marketing, questionable in practice) and has an
assortment of outputs (but not Firewire). The Onyx is limited to 96 kHz
and has only Firewire digital outputs. Then there's the fact that the
1640 gives you 16 mic inputs and the 800R has only 8.


If you're looking for a studio product, I'd recommend the 800R and work
out the interfacing depending on how you work. The Onyx mixer with the
Firewire card is a really great way to bring home a multitrack
recording of whatever went into the mics when you're doing a live show,
but that combination can be somewhat awkward for studio use. You'll
piss and moan because in order to use the mixer's EQ for recording
you'll have to do some patching, and then you can only get two EQ'd
channels going to the computer through the Firewire interface. And to
use the mixer's EQ for mixing your tracks, you'll need an interface for
your computer that has multiple outputs.


The two are as much alike as two watermelons in a patch.



Nate Najar
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Mike,


do you know if the pres sound the same?  I guess technically they
should be.  I need more channels of pre- i have an onyx 1220 and a RNP.
I was  thinking a focusrite octopre or a mackie 800r but i don't
really like the pres in my mackie board.  They're kind of nasally.


Nate



Mike Rivers
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Nate Najar wrote:
> do you know if the pres sound the same?


I don't know of any two preamps, even on the same console, that I can
tell you sound the same. Suffice it to say that they're both perfectly
decent preamps. They both have about the same amount of gain (which, at
just barely 60 dB is less than I'd like sometimes) and they don't get
noisy when you crank them wide open.


>  I was  thinking a focusrite octopre or a mackie 800r but i don't
> really like the pres in my mackie board.  They're kind of nasally.


In that case, find a preamp that sounds good with the mics you're
using. Hank Alrich gave the Onyx quite a good workout a couple of
months back and posted his findings here. He found that with some mics
it was flattering, with other mics it was not, which is typical of any
mic preamp, particularly a transformerless one. It's really a crapshoot
that you have to shoot out yourself.

I would think that you could take care of a little "nasally" with a
touch of EQ, though on the Onxy mixer, unless you route the input
channel to the main or ALT outputs you can't use the channel EQ when
you're tracking. But if you're recording in a DAW, you can certainly
touch it up. It's no sin to use the tools that you have, provided
they're decent tools.